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Post by dragonslayer on Mar 2, 2014 10:48:57 GMT
For those who are new to the game and are finding it difficult to understand the problem with inactive players, and why they need to go:Consider the following.
In numerous games past there have been wolves / blue roles that were inactive, which means a free kill for us without retribution, plus their being alive does little to help us...it only helps the wolves.
For instance in a game with 12 players, if there are 4 wolves, a seer, a psychic, and 6 villagers:
If everyone participates then the wolves only need to kill off 4 people without being discovered to win.
If there are 2 inactive players, then in reality they only need to kill off 2 active players in the first 2 night phases, this leaves 4 players who are active and 2 which are no help to the villagers as they are INACTIVE, so as soon as the next night phase comes round, whatever villagers are left will be outnumbered / outvoted.
So instead of needing to kill off for example 4 people without being sussed, the wolves can ignore the non participants and kill off just 2 of the active players, which gives them an easy win, as when our numbers dwindle, we have no back up from the non participants, so as soon as you hit the 3rd night phase you will always be outnumbered / outvoted by the wolves.
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Post by bubblegumfrog on Mar 2, 2014 12:58:57 GMT
I VOTE FOR FLUFFY
i find it wierd how you just happen to go into the cellar of the pub when the barmaid dies
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Post by dragonslayer on Mar 2, 2014 13:07:31 GMT
for me it was the lack of reaction when i implied she was NOT GUILTY, there was also no reaction to meustrus saying "why was I protecting her....as if we were in cahoots!
She has said little, which is an obvious wolf ploy to avoid being caught!
Take heed all others who say little...flying under the radar doesnt establish your innocence with this dragon trainer....
I have hungry dragons to feed....I say toss 'em fluffy!
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Post by fluffy on Mar 2, 2014 13:45:29 GMT
for me it was the lack of reaction when i implied she was NOT GUILTY, there was also no reaction to meustrus saying "why was I protecting her....as if we were in cahoots! She has said little, which is an obvious wolf ploy to avoid being caught! |
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Post by fluffy on Mar 2, 2014 13:51:12 GMT
can i just say there will always be little reaction to what people say about me im more of thinker than a talker so no i diddnt react to any positive or negative comments about myself .... or even the one in which i had a sex change and became a HE
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Post by meustrus on Mar 2, 2014 14:05:02 GMT
Wow. Huh. So you saying you didn't suspect fluffy was supposed to be a ploy? Anyway I meant to post yesterday but didn't.
I vote ODDJUNIOR.
But if we get to have him killed off instead of whomever the wolves pick (which I support) then I vote ALIND.
Please tell me there aren't four wolves in this game. That's too many for this number of players.
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Post by esperare on Mar 2, 2014 14:36:18 GMT
It's so early in the game I just don't have any suspicious feelings about anyone yet. I do find dragonslayers reactions interesting but that's probably just cause he posts a lot. fluffy seems perfectly calm and reasonable to me.
Purely to break the tie I'm going to vote ALIND
(at least I think I read all that right and it's a tie)
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Post by Tiger on Mar 2, 2014 14:58:12 GMT
someone can't count!
fluffy, esperare, and meustrus voted to execute Alind = 3 votes
dragonslayer and bubblegum sheep voted to execute fluffy = 2 votes
unless ragnar56 votes by proxy...he wont participate until monday...that leaves Alind and Hitashisukkymotor to vote.
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Post by Tiger on Mar 2, 2014 15:11:00 GMT
Ragnar has put in a vote for fluffy by proxy so:
fluffy esperare and meustrus voted to execute alind = 3 votes
ragnar, dragonslayer and bubblegumsheep voted to kill off fluffy = 3 votes
so far its a tie with alind and hitashisukkymotor to vote
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Post by alind on Mar 2, 2014 16:29:33 GMT
i have read your postings with interest could fluffy be a wolf the simple beast did go in the cellar YES I VOTE FLUFFY OFF
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Post by Tiger on Mar 2, 2014 16:54:24 GMT
fluffy esperare and meustrus voted to execute alind = 3 votes
ragnar, dragonslayer, bubblegumsheep and alind voted to kill off fluffy = 4 votes
so far its 4 votes to 3 in favour of fluffy being executed with hitashisukkymotor left to vote.
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Post by Tiger on Mar 2, 2014 18:00:20 GMT
Darkness is falling, as the angry villagers pursue FLUFFY out into the village square, armed with pitchforks and burning torches. She makes a dash for it into the forest, past the training enclosure, but is enveloped in flames then gobbled up by the hungry dragons.
Screams for help fill the air and the villagers turn to see ODDJUNIOR and DRAGONFLY emerge from the distant treeline pursued by a pack of several werewolves. It is too late.... nothing can be done to save them, they fall prey to the foul teeth of the pack, and whilst the pack feeds, the villagers quickly run home to safety......
THE NIGHT PHASE HAS BEGUN AND WILL LAST UNTIL MONDAY 3RD MARCH AT:
Europe
18:00 PM London (GMT)
19:00 PM Paris, Berlin, Amsterdam, Rome, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Oslo
America
13:00 PM Washington DC (EST)
12:00 PM Chicago (CST)
11:00 AM Denver (MST)
11:00 AM Phoenix (MST)
10:00 AM Los Angeles (PST)
09:00 AM Anchorage (AKST)
08:00 AM Honolulu (HST)
Australia On Monday 3rd March
05:36 AM Kingston (NFT)
05:06 AM Lord Howe Island (LHST)
04:36 AM Adelaide (CST)
02:06 AM Perth (WST)
01:06 AM The Settlement (CXT)
05:00 AM Canberra (EST)
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Post by meustrus on Mar 2, 2014 21:50:38 GMT
...well that's not what I was expecting from "get rid of the inactive players". Unless one of them was a wolf it seems like us villagers have taken a huge hit. Also do we get to know what was fluffy's role?
As for the wolves, it is now time to see whether they take out an obvious opponent or take out somebody who was defending them and shielding innocents. It's always a gamble to sway public opinion but hey, all the wolves have to do is put us in disarray. Which means we can't just accept everybody's arguments at face value; we have to all build up our own internal ideas of who is trustworthy, and be ready to change those ideas if they prove wrong. Look for bad reasoning. Look for somebody just going along, fading into the backdrop. Look for mistakes. We've got slim chances catching wolves by executing the quiet ones but it's the best we've got until they are flushed out into the public debate and start making mistakes.
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Post by Tiger on Mar 2, 2014 23:22:42 GMT
As explained in "How to play the werewolf game thread"
red roles are werewolves
The blue roles are seer, psychic
the green roles are villagers
Therefore as highlighted above:
Fluffy was a werewolf
Dragonfly was the seer or the psychic
Oddjunior was a villager.
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Post by bubblegumfrog on Mar 3, 2014 15:06:11 GMT
I KNEW IT and now i think we know who to suspect
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