meustrus
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Post by meustrus on Mar 4, 2014 19:18:32 GMT
dragonslayer may have been the first to vote against fluffy but he was also the first to claim she could be "ruled out": Fluffy the village idiot I think we can rule out, (This is definitely NOT the droid we're looking for!)a clueless beast that cowers in the innkeepers cellar at night, contrary to what the robot entered on his chart. Why vote for the one player you said could be ruled out? Is it because you suspected I would vote her off and then you would look like a sympathizer? My reason for voting for alind was that I thought I could trust fluffy more than you. Obviously I was wrong. The backstory for alind is still suspicious but I think we have better reasons to go on. So I am guessing we've got two wolves among this list of four suspects. Those suspects are esperare, dragonslayer, meustrus (myself), and hitashisukkymotor. I know I can rule out myself, and although I still distrust dragonslayer enough to put him on this list, I think the other two are more suspicious at this point. That leaves esperare and hitashisukkymotor. Let's see how they decided to vote last round, and how much reasoning they put behind it: It's so early in the game I just don't have any suspicious feelings about anyone yet. I do find dragonslayers reactions interesting but that's probably just cause he posts a lot. fluffy seems perfectly calm and reasonable to me. Purely to break the tie I'm going to vote ALIND (at least I think I read all that right and it's a tie) And of course hitashisukkymotor did not vote due to allegedly not knowing how. We have an explanation from...the innkeeper for not voting. Would esperare care to explain why she voted for alind?
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Post by dragonslayer on Mar 4, 2014 19:45:44 GMT
Actually Bubblegumfrog realised early on I was chasing wolves and we formed an alliance to flush them out....something I think the co - wolves have realized.....hence they killed him off...I'm thinking if they don't manage to sway public opinion into voting me off in the day phase then I will be killed off in the night phase for this very reason. In short they know I am on to them, and like Bubblegumfrog am a big threat to them for this very reason. If they kill me off, no doubt they will continue to laugh whilst you all die one by one until it's game over. So perhaps it's time for some of you to rethink and review the evidence once again, hopefully Bubblegum frog will confirm in his death post that we were in fact working together on this, and as you already know my beautiful Dragonfly was 100% innocent. I am quietly grief-stricken at the loss of them both, but more resolved than ever to hunt out the werewolves and avenge their deaths. Plus If I were really a wolf...what reason would i have to vote against a team - mate? Perhaps if there were many more players and therefore more wolves, then such a strategy may be plausible... but so early in the game? For what reason? And how would that benefit the wolves with so few players? In a game with 10 players - I'm guessing there can only be 2 or 3 wolves at most, so to lose one so early in the game is a SERIOUS blow to the wolf team. Think about it people...logic please! If you bother to read my new and improved table, you will see that the 2 prime candidates for wolfishness are Meustrus and Esperare. If anyone gets the chance you should check them for fur and sharp teeth...also whilst I'm happy to accept a no vote from Hitashisukkymotor due to the timezone thing....there is still a question mark over your name for now! As for Meustrus who said : dragonslayer may have been the first to vote against fluffy but he was also the first to claim she could be "ruled out": 28 Feb 2014 at 10:25 dragonslayer said: Fluffy the village idiot I think we can rule out, (This is definitely NOT the droid we're looking for!)a clueless beast that cowers in the innkeepers cellar at night, contrary to what the robot entered on his chart. Meustrus: Why vote for the one player you said could be ruled out? Is it because you suspected I would vote her off and then you would look like a sympathizer? My reason for voting for alind was that I thought I could trust fluffy more than you. Obviously I was wrong. The backstory for alind is still suspicious but I think we have better reasons to go on. Since players can only be guilty or innocent, there is a 50 / 50 chance of you guessing right... The first day is often the hardest, and I often select so many players I then attack as "possible guilty suspects, and others as innocent " I do this to stir debate and get the ball rolling, by observing the reactions of players, I have often hit lucky early in the game, as I did this time. Of course I had no idea who was guilty or innocent when I launched into my first "observations"...... the whole point was to see if i could flush out any prospective wolves by using my usual ploy! Happily it worked...yet despite the evidence Meustrus is still on some kind of crusade to kill me off. He admits he was wrong for trusting fluffy more than me, yet is still fixated on a tactical ploy! And frankly The most important bit of the "innocence of fluffy" quote above that I wrote - for me - was the star wars reference (This is definitely NOT the droid we're looking for!) when I wrote it! <---- was dying to get that joke in, and I'm glad I did....if I hadn't there would still be another wolf among us! I can only assume that the continued distrust or suspicion from Meustrus is because: 1. he is a wolf who knows I am a threat to him as I'm on the right track or: 2. He is i fact an innocent villager who is hopelessly floundering about and as his last vote shows....has NO clue as to who the guilty really are! Right now I am leaning towards option 1. <--- I would like to point out that Bubblegumfrog also suspected you, and even more so when you sided with a wolf rather than voting them off!
The evidence speaks for itself Meustrus. The fact that fluffy the wolf voted for Alind - to me proves her innocence, not her guilt.
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Post by Tiger on Mar 4, 2014 20:46:51 GMT
Re Silver bullets...now that the first one has been awarded to Hitashisukkymotor:
Firstly congratulations to all who win a silver bullet!
You may use your silver bullet in a game of your choosing (Any Game but the one which is currently running when you win it) to kill one of the wolves that kills you off in the night phase.
It may not save you from dying yourself....but you will have the satisfaction of both taking a murderous wolf with you, and also that you have helped keep the villagers safe!
Also the knowledge that you are in possession of a silver bullet is a nice insurance policy that will make the wolves think twice about killing you off!
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Post by hitashi on Mar 4, 2014 21:35:48 GMT
Twilight creeps slowly into the village with a strange ground mist that clings to the feet of Dragonslayer as he finishes dishing out tasty morsels of his dragon's favourite dish - "knights of the realm in barbeque sauce." There is a commotion from the magic store nearby; is it the klutzy robot store manager Meustrus attempting to mix potions again? Perhaps the commotion is something more sinister....the tormented robotic sounds of a harmless collection of nuts and bolts....changing into a vicious remorseless terrifying metal beast? As he finishes up, talking softly to his beloved dragons, he sees the Fairy Baker Dragonfly closing up her shop for the night. She glances this way and that: is she afraid? Perhaps those quick surreptitious glances are not to check for possible werewolves as the night draws in....but to check for witnesses in case she herself is about to change. A distant howl quickens his pace, and he bumps into Esperare the village doctor as she rounds the corner into the square...hurrying home too no doubt, to barricade herself in, the alternative is too awful to contemplate. I've taken the liberty of scrolling through the village records, and have highlighted a couple of passages of interest.... Both of these villagers were only briefly observed on that first fateful evening. Esperare was not seen at all after being sighted walking through the square - what darkened corner did you skulk off to? Meustrus was heard rattling in the store, but no evidence of a barricade attempt or a thought to running home. I challenge all of you to find any evidence of where they went - on either night!!! Most of us have made at least a basic attempt to account for our whereabouts - and only silence and charts from these two. Is it because you think you have no need to explain yourselves as you'll only eat us all later? ? I intend not to be easy prey for you....
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Post by bubblegumfrog on Mar 4, 2014 21:44:49 GMT
Alas i am dead but the fact that you have found this note shows that my suspicions where correct. I have left clues among you if you are smart enough you will find them. But I will try to point you simple folk in the right direction. The fact that i am dead and meustrus was openly out for me and dragonslayer at the start shows he is concerned about being caught and hung as a werewolf also if you look you can see that on the vote that the 2 people that backed up fluffy was meustrus and esperare. SO DO NOT TRUST THEM IF YOU VALUE YOUR LIFE. Also I looked back and noticed that the inn keeper was going to vote to have me lynched isn’t it a bit strange he says that and now im dead? Now to confirm an earlier comment I was working with dragonslayer. Now meustrus I think you will find that he actually voted for fluffy as a result of my reasoning and now that it has come true I think you should all LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAYS. This is because we have worked out the werewolves and if you want to win you will back him up. And to that sheep comment I will get revenge on you. THIS BELOW IS A QUOTE FROM Hitashisukkymotor BUBBLEGUMFROG - your moves are bold and loud - but a little TOO much so? In my mind YES!! All that super large talk yesterday "Everyone look at my pretty flamey feathers and phoenix like physique - no, ignore the shaggy fur and fangs!! Look ONLY at the pretty flaming things!!) and now a super overt gesture "Come and get me wolves" It smacks of ham-fisted diversion if you ask me! DRAGONSLAYER - an interesting end to your little love triangle - and I see not an ounce of grief or bitterness at the loss of your beloved Dragonfly..... Was it a fit of jealous rage that lost ODDJUNIOR his life when you saw them walking home together that evening? When DRAGONFLY finally revealed it was always going to be BUBBLEGUMFROG and thanked you for all the good times - was she a poor victim of "if I can't have you, no-one will" He has targeted the 2 people who orchestrated the killing of fluffy and he also is targeting people to get lynched ahead of the vote does this not show that me and dragonslayer are just innocent and does it not indicate that he is a wolf and the wolves are targeting the biggest opponents. I will also say this the taunting was planned I wanted to die. I knew that my death would help to confirm who the werewolf is and if you look hard enough you will see the clues are there. I knew that going under the radar is not how to start or to catch wolves. Now I will point out the fact that from the very start that meustrus targeted me and now at the first chance they got I died. Also I would like to point out in the home page there is a bit which says who was on during the last day and I noticed that meustrus and esperare had not logged in and I used this to help confirm some theories. This was backed up by tigers post which said “Well it's 6.30pm on Monday night GMT, but I still havent received word from the werewolf(ves) to say who they wish to kill off, so I shall extend the night phase.... Hopefully just one day.......until I receive instructions. “ She then went on to put I have been contacted now with apologies for a late response....the game can resume tomorrow. I will point out the fact that Hitashisukkymotor posted a short while before this quote from tiger. This leads me to believe that one of them is guilty. And I hope that by putting this people see how it is not just what people say but a combination of things that can be used to work out the culprits. Finally I will conclude my will with this I HAVE BURNED ALL THE MONEY IN THE BANK AS A PUNISHMENT FOR NOT TRUSTING ME, I WARNED YOU I WILL BE BACK AND BELIEVE ME I WILL SEEK REVENGE.
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Post by hitashi on Mar 4, 2014 21:57:21 GMT
lol my gosh even in death you talk lots bubblegumfrog hahaha - just a quick retort, in my mind you were a suspect - everyone was! It's a good thing you were STILL ALIVE when I made the statements you have quoted or there would have been much less filler for the letter we discovered this morning lol It's too bad though that you passed away before my most recent post, which is quite an obvious shift in theory! I like my little hummingbird tailfeathers to continue with their current lack of wolf-munchery and my very public apology for mistrusting you in the first place. I'm still not gonna miss your phoenix yelling hahah but here's one for my homie lol *pours whiskey to the dirt*
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Post by fluffy on Mar 4, 2014 22:20:14 GMT
As if life isn't hard enough, with no place to call my own, and the brunt of everyone's jokes about the mentally challenged. My days are one long miserable scavenging for whatever rodents or bugs I can find, and only the comfort of a cold dank cellar to return to every night, due the kindness and generosity of the Innkeeper Hitashisukkymotor.
Imagine when to my horror, I lingered in the woods too long feasting on a delicious bambi that a hapless hunter had shot but not managed to kill....my best meal by far in months. Such was my delight in this stroke of luck, I admit I somewhat gorged on the delicious meal, until before I knew it, dusk was falling and night was upon me. I ran.....ran as fast as I could back to the safety of my cellar, and the loving kindness of the Innkeeper...my one and only friend in the whole wide world.
But it was too late, I was surrounded, viciously attacked, and I fought valiantly, so afraid was I that my beloved friend the humming bird would be next on their menu. The next night, I could not understand what was happening to me. I suddenly felt strange, quite ill, and the there was a terrible pain everywhere and I began to transform.
Of course when I woke up, I thought it was all just a terrible dream. I dreamed I transformed into a vicious mindless beast, not stupid any more, but consumed with rage and hunger with no thought of anything else. I dreamed I escaped from the cellar - just in time to see my beloved Innkeepers niece Geraldine wave goodbye to her aunt and skip home. I dashed after her, with only hunger and violence in my heart and tore her to pieces, later to be fought over as others like myself began to arrive in the square.
I comforted myself that it was all just a terrible dream, caused by the fear of the danger the village was in....imagine to my horror when i found upon waking that Geraldine TRULY was dead! Then it hit me.....perhaps I was not the culprit - but had acquired powers - was able to predict the future in my dreams. This was truly wonderful....now i would be able to see what happened before it happened and hopefully use that to save the lives of the villagers, becoming a hero and winning their respect and gratitude.
As for the possibility that I was now a werewolf - I still could not believe it, and if it were true then my only friend, the only creature in the whole wide world that truly loved me and cared for me and provided me with shelter would surely hate me for all eternity! Where would I go? What would I do? And yet the villagers were threatening to execute the guilty party.
Forgive me my Innkeeper friend, I beg you, this curse was thrust upon me, and I am truly repentant of my dastardly sins. Truly I wanted to stay to save you from the monsters....that may seem idiotic to you, but I didn't earn the title village idiot" by being smart....and I just wasn't smart enough to realize that I had become one of the very monsters I wanted to save you from.
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Post by hitashi on Mar 4, 2014 22:37:35 GMT
oooooooo - very clever fluffy, all that 'only friend in the whole wide world' talk, nice tactic. obvious...... but nice . hahahahahah
*fondly strokes silver bullet*
still waiting to hear from an ACTUAL living werewolf.............
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Post by dragonslayer on Mar 4, 2014 23:08:54 GMT
There is a commotion from the magic store nearby; is it the klutzy robot store manager Meustrus attempting to mix potions again? Perhaps the commotion is something more sinister....the tormented robotic sounds of a harmless collection of nuts and bolts....changing into a vicious remorseless terrifying metal beast? A distant howl quickens his pace, and he bumps into Esperare the village doctor as she rounds the corner into the square...hurrying home too no doubt, to barricade herself in, the alternative is too awful to contemplate. I've taken the liberty of scrolling through the village records, and have highlighted a couple of passages of interest.... Both of these villagers were only briefly observed on that first fateful evening. Esperare was not seen at all after being sighted walking through the square - what darkened corner did you skulk off to? Meustrus was heard rattling in the store, but no evidence of a barricade attempt or a thought to running home. I challenge all of you to find any evidence of where they went - on either night!!! Most of us have made at least a basic attempt to account for our whereabouts - and only silence and charts from these two. Is it because you think you have no need to explain yourselves as you'll only eat us all later? ? I intend not to be easy prey for you.... Finally - the lights are on and there's somebody home! Welcome to enlightenment little hummingbird! The evidence is stacking up against these 2 now! Whilst one cannot be 100% sure that your observations here are not just a wolfish cunning ploy to throw us off the scent, I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt as a new player based on your previous posts and the fact that this is only day 2 in the game. It will be interesting to see who you actually vote for this time round. I think the game may be up for the wolves now!
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Post by hitashi on Mar 4, 2014 23:11:32 GMT
We hummingbirds may fly fast - but think carefully when we take the time to do it I still have some whiskey in my jar-o, care to take a tipple with me while we wait for responses? On the house, of course
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Post by esperare on Mar 5, 2014 18:37:04 GMT
I feel like I have a lot to say but can't say most of it for fear of suspicion. First, I live in American central time which would be why I never seem to be on at the same time as any of you. Very unfortunate indeed.
So much has been said I don't think there's much I can say to defend myself. I will say, though, that I have played several of these games before and have seen one or two wolves that set themselves up as a villager so well that they won. Not saying this is happening but it would be possible, especially with us more experienced players. Be careful who you trust. I don't trust you, any of you.
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Post by dragonslayer on Mar 5, 2014 19:16:14 GMT
Ditto......but who to vote for?
It's a toss up between you and Meustrus, and as of yet I just can't make my mind up.
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Post by meustrus on Mar 6, 2014 0:21:52 GMT
FYI I am also in GMT - 6 time. Although I do remember being online several times, posting several times between the execution and the wolf attack. I was as frustrated as anyone about the delay. dragonslayer, it appears you have been vindicated. I'm sorry to have suspected you. This time it's certainly messed me up, hasn't it? As for bubblegumfrom, I have no idea why anybody thinks I was ever gunning for him. I've been pretty consistently against dragonslayer ever since we got responses from everyone. I can only imagine bubblegumfrom took it personally that I targeted inactive players before the first execution. With all that out of the way, I need to put together a new chart to gather my thoughts... Player | Character | Activity | Suspicions | Alibis |
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alind | Fairy dressmaker | works late, went back out after promising to go home | | |
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esperare | Human doctor | | voted to keep fluffy | |
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dragonslayer | Jedi Knight dragon trainer | love triangle with Dragonfly, bubblegumfrog | Cast accusations at everyone except fluffy | Initiated voting against fluffy in cahoots with known villager bubblegumfrog |
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bubblegumfrog | Phoenix bank manager | love triangle with Dragonfly, dragonslayer; sleepwalks | | |
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ragnar56 | Wizard blacksmith | drinking buddies with oddjunior | | voted to kill a werewolf (fluffy), also may be vindicated now we know that oddjunior was a villager. |
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fluffy | six legged bumble thunder beast/village idiot | stays out at night (or does he?) | connection to pub | |
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meustrus | robot magic store owner | clumsy | | |
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oddjunior | | drinking buddies with ragnar56 | | |
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Dragonfly | Fairy baker | love triangle with dragonslayer, bubblegumfrog | | |
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Hitashisukkymotor | Hummingbird bar owner | | Kept the space where fluffy slept | |
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I need to go *right now* so I'll get back to making sense of all this in a little bit...
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Post by meustrus on Mar 6, 2014 4:16:40 GMT
As an aside: dragonslayer, could you please be a little more careful with your quote tags? It's rather hard to read when your whole post is encapsulated in a block quote. So we've got 6 people left in the game. Probably 1 or 2 more wolves in that group, so tomorrow there will be 4 of us left. If there are two wolves (and it would be really good to have the word of a psychic right now) then we have to get this turn right. There can be no toss up. That said, my suspicions are leveled between esperare and hitashisukkymotor right now. The latter because, well, she didn't vote and story-wise she would have been close to the known wolf. But fluffy tried to backhandedly implicate her, which was probably meant to sow enough confusion for us to vote her off. She can probably be ruled out. The former has better reasons against her. esperare actually voted opposite to keep fluffy and still hasn't given a reason why. But most of my reasoning against her is out of game. When she saw that I voted against alind, she asked why. I told her it was because I didn't trust dragonslayer and because the story put her out at night. She just nodded. Not much reaction. It was like she wanted to understand why I was getting it wrong, hiding a smirk at having fooled me. In addition, regarding the delay from the wolves, I'd like to list the posts made between execution and the next morning (all times GMT): Tiger | Mar 2 | 18:00 | fluffy is executed. | meustrus | Mar 2 | 21:50 | | Tiger | Mar 2 | 23:22 | | bubblegumfrog | Mar 3 | 15:06 | | bubblegumfrog | Mar 3 | 15:08 | | Tiger | Mar 3 | 18:37 | Announced that wolf has missed deadline for contact. | bubblegumfrog | Mar 3 | 19:43 | | hitashisukkymotor | Mar 3 | 21:17 | | Tiger | Mar 3 | 21:32 | Announced that wolf has contacted. |
It's pretty clear from this list that I was online between the execution and the missed deadline for wolves. It's also pretty clear that esperare is missing. I happen to know that she was in fact neglecting this game during that time; it wasn't until after Tiger announced that the wolf had missed the deadline that I asked her if she had been on recently, and she told me she hadn't and that she'd check in soon. The timing lines up pretty well with Tiger's announcement that the game could continue on March 3rd at 21:32 GMT. If you can't tell, I've zeroed in on suspect #1. I am voting to execute ESPERARE.
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Post by hitashi on Mar 6, 2014 5:35:37 GMT
Alright - I'm voting a little early to ensure I don't make the same mistake as last time and miss out. Like Dragonslayer, I'm also torn on where to cast my vote, Meustrus and Esperare are both lead contenders in my mind. In one of my more recent posts I recall asking either of them to account for their whereabouts during the attacks, and still nothing from either of them. However, in recalling the words from Fluffys last letter - trying to pin an imaginary allegiance and imaginary enduring friendship (boy that six-legged-bumble-thunder-beast really was the village idiot! ) - and looking now at the time flow chart Meustrus has kindly provided above (which seems to want to implicate me as a conspirator simply because of the timing of a post) I am thinking that the combined inference from both a known werewolf and a suspected one has swayed my vote: I vote Meustrus - Esperare - I still have suspicions about you, but your silence has been your saviour in my vote..... this time......
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