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Post by Tiger on May 18, 2014 19:59:51 GMT
Ok I've had a last minute vote by proxy from Fluffy who cannot get to a computer right now but has decided she doesn't want to risk being the victim of a random killing when she has no votes against her. <---- at last! A sensible muppet!
So the final vote so far
| Player | AKA | votes for: | | Alind | Swedish chef | Cookie monster | | Bubblegumfrog | Animal | Cookie monster | | Cockroach | Kermit | Animal | | Dragonfly | Count Dracula | Miss Piggy | | Dragonslayer | Beaker | Crazy Harry | | Eggdragon | Fozzie bear | Animal | | Esperare | Super Grover |
| | Fluffy | Gonzo | Animal | | Hitashi | Waldorf | Cookie monster | | Meustrus | Cookie monster |
| | Mirly | Crazy Harry | Miss Piggy | | Mockingjay | Miss Piggy | Animal | | Riverdance | Statler | Animal |
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Post by Tiger on May 18, 2014 20:01:15 GMT
*<----- night phase narrative in progress..... silence on the board until the day phase begins again please.
players can private message other players at this time...unless they have just been killed off. If your character has just died in the game - you are allowed ONE death post when the day phase begins.
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Post by Tiger on May 18, 2014 20:23:57 GMT
As the muppets and villagers crept up upon the latest suspect, the evidence did indeed look damning. Animal sat munching on a huge leg of venison, his face and clothes covered with blood, the ground around him littered with several bones. Knowing his violent disposition, his capture had been carefully planned. A large net was thrown over him, and whilst he was trussed up a noose was thrown round his neck. He was then swiftly hauled up high into the old oak tree and left to swing until he was dead.
Not wanting him to be a free feast for the werewolves, the villagers lowered and buried him before nightfall, it was only then that they realized the depth of their error. What they had thought was blood smeared over his face and clothes was in fact barbeque sauce! There was much weeping and gnashing of teeth!.....surely they were living in the end times, to live through such things... but it was too late, Animal was now dead and gone, and there were still werewolves among them.
As Beaker sang a poignant requiem mass for the one who had prevented him from being booed offstage,the the village and muppets alike, stood silently, hats in hand, until the body of Animal had been lowered into the deep grave and covered with a mound of rocks and stones.
A howl shocked everyone to their senses....dusk was falling, and the howl had sounded close...too close for comfort. Abandoning propriety everyone sprinted for the safety of their homes and barricaded themselves in hastily.
There is nothing to do now but hide, hide and pray and cower behind your defenses and hope you will not be next, for the night phase has begun, and will continue until Tuesday 20th at 9pm GMT
Europe
21:00 PM London (GMT)
22:00 PM Paris, Berlin, Amsterdam, Rome, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Oslo
America
16:00 PM Washington DC (EST)
15:00 PM Chicago (CST)
14:00 AM Denver (MST)
13:00 AM Phoenix (MST)
13:00 AM Los Angeles (PST)
12:00 AM Anchorage (AKST)
10:00 AM Honolulu (HST)
Australia On Monday 19th May
07:30AM Kingston (NFT)
06:30 AM Lord Howe Island (LHST)
05:30 AM Adelaide (CST)
04:00 AM Perth (WST)
03:00 AM The Settlement (CXT)
06:00 AM Canberra (ACT)
New Zealand On Monday 19th May
08:00 AM Wellington
N.B. Now that special items are in play:
1. The 1st 24 hour period of the night phase is (a.)for the wolves to decide who they are going to kill off (b.) for a wolf being voted off to play their demon card to protect themselves.
2. The 2nd 24 hour period of the night phase is (a.) for the seer to seer someone of their choosing and (b.) for the werewolf victim to decide whether to use a special item or not / which special item they will use. (c.) for the werewolf to decide if they're going to use a demon card to nullify a silver bullet used by a player
silver bullet - this kills the wolf that kills you
wolfsbane - this wards off a werewolf attack (only works once)
angel card - summons an angel to protect yourself or another player (only works once)
fairy dust - transports you safely to the fairy realm for the duration of the night phase (works only once)
demon card - summons a demon to protect it's werewolf owner from harm. (only works once)
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Post by Tiger on May 20, 2014 20:08:24 GMT
Another sleepless night ensues, those not mourning the loss of Animal are feeling the weight of guilt....guilt at accusing and then lynching an innocent muppet.
When dawn breaks, the villagers nervously venture outside to mourn the tragic death of Sandra Bullock, who had agreed to appear as a special guest on the show in the wake of the tragic demise of "The Rock".
After her most excellent appearance on the show, it is with sincere sadness that they wept for her last night, as they listened to her screams but could do nothing to save her. The whole village had tried to warn her of the werewolf problem, but to no avail. Having been brought up to think such things were fanciful, only make believe, she steadfastly denied that such creatures existed and had refused to heed their warnings. It took 2 long hours for her to die, and the screams tore at every villager's heart she had won. Many had wept this night for the 2 hours she screamed....wept until there was finally silence and they consoled themselves that now at least...it was finally over and she could rest in peace.
"Somehow I think we haven't got a hope in hell of persuading anyone else to come on the show as a special guest right now," remarked Kermit to cookie monster.
"You haven't got a hope in hell of persuading ME to appear in the show unless you bribe me with lots of cookies!" said cookie monster, still paranoid after his near lynching the previous day. He suddenly spotted a large plate of cookies in the village bakery window and bounded happily off to pay them tribute.
In the meantime Riverdance, somewhat worse for wear, limped out into the square shaking. Apparently the wolves had broken through her defenses last night, but she had managed to successfully keep them at bay with wolfsbane. However, what she was going to do if they should attack again was anyone's guess.
"psst....probably die!" said Rizzo the rat in a loud whisper.
In a dour mood, the villagers made their way to the town hall for a hot drink and a slice of toast, and the opportunity to discuss their situation whilst entertained by their zany muppet guests.
The day phase has begun and will last until Friday 23rd May 9pm GMT
Europe
21:00 PM London (GMT)
22:00 PM Paris, Berlin, Amsterdam, Rome, Copenhagen, Stockholm, O
slo
America
16:00 PM Washington DC (EST)
15:00 PM Chicago (CST)
14:00 AM Denver (MST)
13:00 AM Phoenix (MST)
13:00 AM Los Angeles (PST)
12:00 AM Anchorage (AKST)
10:00 AM Honolulu (HST)
Australia On Saturday 24th May
07:30AM Kingston (NFT)
06:30 AM Lord Howe Island (LHST)
05:30 AM Adelaide (CST)
04:00 AM Perth (WST)
03:00 AM The Settlement (CXT)
06:00 AM Canberra (ACT)
New Zealand On Saturday 24th May
08:00 AM Wellington
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Post by riverdancepenguin on May 21, 2014 6:49:42 GMT
I was about to say "I'm amazed I was attacked, yet Fozzie Bear is still alive!"
Then I thought about it and realized the wolves were quite right not to bother killing someone this stupid off as he poses zero threat!
So for the benefit of those who don't have much experience playing the game, I'd like to explain something to you.
On the first dayphase / nightphase everyone is pretty much in the dark. To seek out alliances so early in the game when you can have no possible idea who the wolves are is frankly extremely dumb!
I received a message as follows which I am now pretty sure was multiple messaged to several if not all players:
You wouldn't happen to be the Seer, would you? I have some urgent news for you, but it is information for the Seer alone!
-Fozzie Bear (eggdragon)
Let me explain to you why this is not a good tactic.
1. if you're looking for the seer- you're not the seer, you can only be a wolf, a villager or the psychic
2. If i were the Seer, not only would I NOT respond to your message, I would have you immediately tagged as a wolf<--- this is a classic wolf tactic! In short the one person you want to reach is NEVER going to respond to this unless they are completely retarded.
3. Also this was sent BEFORE the seer could seer anyone, so even if this person WAS the seer or was in contact with the seer, there's no way they could know anything of importance. And if they truly did - then why message you looking for the seer" when they must already have found them (on day one<---highly unlikely) to have "urgent news!"
4. So what urgent news can you possibly have? The seer had no time to seer anyone and it's far too early in the game to have any idea whatsoever who the wolves are. There are only 3 possibilities:
a. If this is truly not a first time player, then you are a wolf and the urgent news is that you want to gobble up the seer and are hoping a newbie has been given the role who will be naive enough to fall for this wolfish ploy
b. you are a villager (i'm guessing the village idiot) and have no urgent news
c. you are a first time player who made a genuine mistake as you are the psychic and you're hoping to team up with the seer.
If the answer is c. Then you need to be aware that every 3rd or 4th person you contacted when you sent this out to multiple players IS A WOLF.
I'm guessing the only reason you're still alive is because they've figured that you're so thick you're no threat to them...hence the fact I was attacked.
Now I think by the time you sent your second message you had realized your error and are now trying to crack on like it was a deliberate ploy to sort out the innocent from the guilty.
The trouble is when you sent that message, you lost all credibility in the game....to now claim I am one of 3 people you can trust is ludicrous. Right now no-one knows anything but the following facts:
1. Animal was innocent
2. A player who clearly is either the psychic or a wolf gave their role away on the first day of the game
3. They were consequently seen as such a huge threat to the wolves, that they are still alive this morning, unless of course they are a wolf looking for the seer - which would explain things quite nicely.
Frankly I don't need 3 days to decide who to vote for. If you're a wolf it's a nice quick and easy kill, if you're the psychic, well it's no real loss...you're hardly Mensa material... and the only value you have in this game is knowing how many wolves there are.
Well anyone with half a brain cell can figure out if we started with 13 players (and take special items into account) - we're going to have either 3 or 4 wolves in the game. So the news is hardly urgent at this stage of the game, and the upside is:
If you seriously ARE the psychic and this is not a wolfish ploy, then whilst we lose a player, luckily it's no-one of any importance as the wolves already know your identity, and any "urgent" news you may have - well you can share in your death post.
I say hasta la vista Fozzie!
I vote Fozzie Bear
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Post by dragonslayer on May 21, 2014 7:57:41 GMT
LMAO....Riverdance, I have to say I messaged Eggdragon thinking this was a newbie mistake, that as a new player he hadn't thought through his tactics. I was laughing so hard when i read your post, cos I literally told him all the same things - though I was less sharp with the caustic wit! His reply?
I think you may be over analyzing my strategy. I am no newbie to Wolf Hunt, however this psychic role is something I have never seen before. I'm not even sure what that person's role is meant to be. However, I am fully aware my message to you was unlikely to yield a straight yes or no response, but it has given me sufficient information to make a decision on your current threat level 
Despite what he says here....I was thinking "he's the psychic" as opposed to a wolf<---- yes! I thought and part of me still thinks this was a rookie mistake that he's now trying to fudge over as best as possible...unfortunately like you said - he gave away his identity to everyone almost immediately in the game - so even if he IS the psychic he is obviously not to be trusted any further in the game - the seer would have to be nuts to trust him, even if they seered him last night and know for sure he is a blue role and NOT a wolf!
The truly sad part is that I know that if he was both a newbie and the psychic, had he told the truth at this point (after I had pointed out all the same things to him as you did), that (and I can only speak for the players I know well) that if cockroach, Tiger, yourself or I been in a wolf role, being of an honourable disposition, we would have given him a free pass for the remainder of the game, realizing that now things had been explained to him, that it was a mistake he would NEVER have repeated again.
However in light of his now claiming to be a seasoned player - I have to wonder like you what in the world he hoped to achieve by this on the first day of the game? Like you - and to quote Eggdragon - I'm now having to reassess this guys "threat level"
based on his claim to be a seasoned player. <---- again not 100% convinced of the truth of this!
However, like you I'm guessing if he IS the psychic the wolves have assessed his threat level as zero, (or he would be dead this morning) and the only other alternative is that YES - he is a seasoned player who has been given a wolf role and is trying to kill off the seer<----- in which case to make a mess of things so soon in the game smacks of poor strategy, either way he clearly didn't think things through before sending out that message. I'm wondering now if anyone else got it or whether he actually sent it to everyone<--- which is completely insane!
If he IS the psychic then to vote him off when the wolves clearly don't see him as a threat could be a wasted vote, however, I think you're right when you said:
If you're a wolf it's a nice quick and easy kill, if you're the psychic, well it's no real loss...you're hardly Mensa material... and the only value you have in this game is knowing how many wolves there are.
Well anyone with half a brain cell can figure out if we started with 13 players (and take special items into account) - we're going to have either 3 or 4 wolves in the game. So the news is hardly urgent at this stage of the game, and the upside is:
If you seriously ARE the psychic and this is not a wolfish ploy, then whilst we lose a player, luckily it's no-one of any importance as the wolves already know your identity, and any "urgent" news you may have - well you can share in your death post.
Read more: thewerewolfgame.freeforums.net/thread/63/twg3-thursday-15th?page=3&scrollTo=1539#ixzz32Knxvk5H
I'm afraid I concur: if he's the psychic then any information he has he can share in his death post, whilst if he's a wolf then we get a free kill so it's a win - win situation!
and perhaps a lesson learned the hard way regardless of what role he's actually playing!
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Post by courageouscockroach on May 21, 2014 8:19:04 GMT
I too got the same message which was duly ignored for all the same reasons
I vote Eggdragon
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Post by hitashi on May 21, 2014 8:33:10 GMT
Well I'm gonna put a big bulls-eye on myself, but honestly I'd rather get eaten by a werewolf than have to sit through another act of this show!! I'm afraid I really like the reasoning behind Statler and Beakers statement,s and am gonna throw anther couple of names into the mix.
Keeping in mind that anyone in an innocent role still had no idea as to the identity of anyone else - but the wolves all knew full well who each other are, I'm thinking that Kermit's move to tie a vote and protect Cookie Monster a mighty bit telling.
I wouldn't believe it unlikely that Tiger has cast more than two wolves in this game (even just for the sheer maniacal fun of it!!) and feel like these three characters (Kermit, Cookie Monster, and Fozzy Bear) are looking like the furry fiends we all seek!!
So the downside for the three of you is that this is a guilty until proven innocent world - and I mark you as WEREWOLVES!! I encourage you all to try and convince me otherwise, but at this stage I will consider much of what you have to say complete boulderdash, so you will have to work mighty hard!
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Post by fluffy on May 21, 2014 14:26:01 GMT
ok so i AM a real newbie to this game and like everybody else go the message but NEVER thought to analyze it to the lengths you lot have lol. he could be wolf looking to hide or a blue/green role looking to be considered too dumb to be worth targeting either way as he knows most of us as little as we know him makeing his play hard to read all hes done is muddy the waters and made the search harder
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Post by meustrus on May 21, 2014 14:47:12 GMT
FYI eggdragon there is no guardian angel in this game. That role is covered instead with special items - the Wolfsbane many of us earned in the previous game which saved Riverdance from the wolves last night. Similarly there is no hunter - that is covered by the "silver bullet" item which is earned from posting a lot. For those criticizing the PM strategy: there are no "obviously wrong" strategies in this game. Even coming out to everyone saying "I'm the Seer" isn't guaranteed to make anything happen. Who's to say it's not a wolf? Wolves killing that person would waste an opportunity to get the entire village going against them. And wolves getting the village going against them might reveal themselves. Eggdragon has played this several times before, albeit with slightly different rules, and like he said to dragonslayer, the responses he got probably gave him a good deal of information about the players in this game. Um...what happened to Crazy Harry? No more picture and display name changed to "."? Now then - who has given me - a COOKIE? Let us see: | Player | Character | Given COOKIE!? | |
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| Alind | Swedish Chef | Yay COOKIE! | You vote against me? | Bubblegumfrog | Animal | | | | Cockroach | Kermit | Yay COOKIE! | You like me? | | Dragonfly | Count | You try take COOKIE! |:[ | | | Dragonslayer | Beaker | Yay many COOKIES! | You like me? | | Eggdragon | Fozzie | No COOKIE! | | | Esperare | Super Grover 2.0 | No show! | | | Fluffy | Gonzo | No COOKIE! (but thank you - for trying!) | You vote against me? | | Hitashi | Waldorf | No COOKIE! | You vote against me? | | meustrus | Cookie Monster | That's ME! | | | Mirly | Crazy Harry | No COOKIE! | | | Mockingjay | Miss Piggy | No COOKIE! | | | Riverdance | Statler | No COOKIE! | |
Me think me go against not FIRST one who vote against me - but SECOND one - one who not even try give me COOKIE! He jump on - no give COOKIE bandwagon! It time for you to go - Waldorf! |
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Post by courageouscockroach on May 21, 2014 18:29:32 GMT
Well I'm gonna put a big bulls-eye on myself, but honestly I'd rather get eaten by a werewolf than have to sit through another act of this show!! I'm afraid I really like the reasoning behind Statler and Beakers statement,s and am gonna throw anther couple of names into the mix.
Keeping in mind that anyone in an innocent role still had no idea as to the identity of anyone else - but the wolves all knew full well who each other are, I'm thinking that Kermit's move to tie a vote and protect Cookie Monster a mighty bit telling.
I wouldn't believe it unlikely that Tiger has cast more than two wolves in this game (even just for the sheer maniacal fun of it!!) and feel like these three characters (Kermit, Cookie Monster, and Fozzy Bear) are looking like the furry fiends we all seek!!
So the downside for the three of you is that this is a guilty until proven innocent world - and I mark you as WEREWOLVES!! I encourage you all to try and convince me otherwise, but at this stage I will consider much of what you have to say complete boulderdash, so you will have to work mighty hard!
I'm guessing she saw the votes for Animal and cookie monster, and figuring Animal to be the most dangerous of the 2 if he was a wolf, stuck in a vote for him. I tied the vote for pretty much the same reason, it was a calculated risk...as a villager we are definitely better off with him on our team, but if he was a wolf role again, then he was the most dangerous of the 2, and it was best to get rid of him asap as opposed to meustrus. I have teamed up with him in the past and know he is an astute player, so to pass up a chance to remove him early on in case he was a wolf at this point would have been madness.
If there had been 4 votes for cookie monster and 3 votes for riverdance - I would have done exactly the same thing for the same reason. The fact is on day 1 we are all shooting blind, no one knows anything other than what THEIR role is, so if i get an opportunity to remove someone who could pose a major threat as a wolf - handed to me on a plate as it were, then I will always take it and not apologize for doing so.
I guess it's just my way.
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Post by hitashi on May 21, 2014 22:37:11 GMT
Well that escalated quickly! I certainly hope Crazy Harry will continue to follow this game to see that nothing personal was intended in ANYONE's posts, it is simply a lot of very strong personalities with some enthusiastic playing styles. I, for one have never confessed to being a seasoned player - and openly admit to the fact that this is only my third game (all played here with the PuppetMasters crew and am very satisfied with the dynamic. Yes it can get boisterous and crazy - but that's where most of the fun comes from!) The simple fact is that from what I have seen - big bold accusations tend to get the game rolling and can yield some big bold results in return. If there are different strategies that work well I am more than a little interested to see them in action - it can only help to improve my game, and some new dynamics would probably throw some vinegar in some tried and true practices  So if the aim here was to get me to apologise for playing honestly and to my own style, it won't happen. But I will say that I am very sorry that some of us seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot, and I hope we can find a way to work forward together!  In the meantime..... To this I say - HOGWASH!!! There is one group who know each others identity - and they have fuzzy coats, sharp teeth and like to hang out at whatever bar Rolphs band is playing at and howl the night away  You do make a good point about Statlers vote though - she's never made a secret of where her first vote usually lies....... |
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Post by dragonfly on May 22, 2014 0:27:06 GMT
One bat, two bat, three bat pets!!! What is that pet bats?? Oh really…Ok. If you think i should vote then it is time… I vote for Kermit. Bat pets doesn't trust someone so green…..
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Post by dragonslayer on May 22, 2014 14:30:06 GMT
As for River...I will be very surprised if by the end of this day phase she hasn't figured out who one if not ALL of the wolves are. In previous games whilst she has hinted for the benefit of other players - very often she is asked NOT to do a death post as it usually finishes the game. If you truly think she's slipping you're living in cloud cuckoo land!
Part of me was ready to suggest we all just ignore eggdragon from now on, or vote him off so we can continue as has been suggested by one player in a PM with a clean slate.
Then I read the posts re Kermit / cockroach.
Here's the problem: Bubblegumfrog was lynched on the first day. Riverdance has already been attacked once, and with no more special items to protect her will likely be killed off in the next night phase.
Now we're talking about removing another good player, without giving much time to assess if he truly is guilty. Frankly at this point with so little to go on I am loathe to vote for cockroach, for the simple reason, if he IS innocent - then we are seriously hampering our chances of finding the wolves and winning the game.
Of course if he IS a wolf then it would be great to kill him off so early in the game.
After careful consideration, it seems to me that eggdragon has managed to create a huge distraction which ultimately benefits no one but the wolves. Because of this as someone has remarked via PM "Everyone is now contemplating knowingly taking out an innocent in order to defend what we have all worked to create together here on the forum"
I have no idea whether cockroach is innocent or whether we will be celebrating taking out our first wolf - should i vote for him.
I do know that whilst Eggdragon is the Psychic - and as long as he is allowed to continue causing a distraction, we're paying him far too much attention instead of concentrating our efforts on looking for wolves.
Therefore I propose we get rid of the distraction, which will ultimately give us more time to figure out if Kermit / cockroach is truly innocent and can help us, because if he is innocent and we kill him, quite frankly our chances of catching the wolves are seriously diminished.
Unless someone can point to something concrete re Cockroach to convince me the wolf accusation is a slam dunk - I vote Eggdragon
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Post by Tiger on May 22, 2014 17:32:40 GMT
I was going to post yet another something but frankly I'm bored with this!
I'd like to get back to being a happy forum and get on with the game. This has gone far enough, and it's obviously pointless trying to get through to the guy because he just won't listen or abide by the rules.
Now it's getting to the stage where players are turning against each other - enough is enough!
Therefore as of now he and his wife are permanently banned and their accounts have been deleted. If they can't be bothered to familiarize themselves with the content of this forum which is pertinent to the game, or abide by the rules, then I'm happy for them to go elsewhere and disrupt someone else's forum.
Let's get on with the game!
P.s apologies...I deleted all posts by those banned that were causing everyone grief. I left the original posts by River and Dragonslayer for the benefit of the new players so they have a reference as to "what not to do and why" regarding protecting your identity in future games. Sorry if my decision has thrown a spanner in the works for anyone!
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