TWG2 Game discussion.

yeah its getting to be a problem...we need to set down what to do when this happens: as i posted in the new roles suggestion thread:

well im hoping this will encourage folk to be posting;(see thread) I realize we're somewhat limited as to what we can do at the moment with so few players, but always figured we could use this time for the new players to gain experience in red and blue role game strategies - until we had enough people to play with some different themes and introduce new roles.
I was worried at the start if there were too many roles, it would wind up being too confusing for the new players.

Either way I'm in favour of anything that will encourage activity in the arena...I originally extended the day phase by popular demand....and now no-one's talking or debating.....you just can't win lol.

Also ....would appreciate some feedback on the eclipse thing I did....

Meustrus and Esperare contacted me, obviously unhappy with it, as they signed in and were ready to vote.

So for the benefit of all players - it was done, because the deadline for the night phase had expired and the remaining wolf still had not been able to post as he was called into work. I wasn't aware of this, (as it was last minute stuff) when i brought the game into day phase, but since there was a good reason for wolfie not being able to post, coupled with the gagging order I inflicted on him, I thought in the interests of fairness that a short eclipse would be a good solution, as the fact he had not been able to contact me COULD NOT BE HELPED.

I AM trying to be as fair as possible to all players here, and to be fair, Esperare was pretty close to or just over the deadline a couple of times in the first game, so I was hoping for a little more understanding from her, yet can appreciate their point of view. I propose I sit down and compile a questionaire or survey to message to all players, so you can decide whether to keep the idea of an eclipse as a failsafe for these sorts of situations, or whether if the wolf fails to respond by the deadline the villagers get a free pass for that night.

There have also been some suggestions re the special items that you might like better and can vote on, along with the ideas above.

Also usually when you play this game, there is no posting during the night phase, maybe it would be a good idea to implement that....perhaps folk might be a bit more talkative in the day phase then. I feel before we go any further we need to establish some rules and vote on a few things so that all the narrators have a decent solid blueprint of what's ok, what isn't, and what to do in any given situation. It would also be good to iron out any niggles re the special items list, as no doubt a few will come into play in the next game.

Read more: thewerewolfgame.freeforums.net/thread/47/new-role-suggestions?page=1&scrollTo=1220#ixzz2z3btkVPP

I'm sorry if it came across that I was upset about the eclipse. I was really only confused if I could vote or not. I actually think it's a good idea, I just didn't understand what was happening.

FYI I actually voted against you because I was the Seer and I knew you were a wolf. As the village idiot I had to keep my reasoning simple, so I picked the simplest argument against you: you were the only one who voted to spare hitashi.

Once again, the complaint was not about the wolf taking too long, it was about the ensuing confusion.

I don't know what your point is about the votes. If it's still about the eclipse, that was confusing because there was an eclipse through Sunday and the vote was supposed to happen on Monday so I was concerned we wouldn't have time for any discussion or to rally all the voters.

Well now the eclipse thing has been dealt with and discussed in 2 places on this forum now (let's hope that's it. Meustrus and Esperare are not up for some kind of flogging here are they??....I don't understand what this is..... Not sure I like it though.

So, for the last time....I was interested in how the eclipse idea went down as it may be useful in emergencies in future games. My first thought when Esperare and Meustrus replied was that I would be looking at a hugely negative response - in short I had messed up badly, although my heart had been in the right place. As it turns out, if I had simply been clearer in stating that from the end of the eclipse to the end of the day phase would be more or at least the same amount of time remaining in the day phase before - so the villagers would lose no discussion / voting time - there would have been less confusion.

I screwed up it - was brought to my attention, and at least it wasn't so much my artistic sensibilities that were getting the negative review - just a short sharp kick up the jacksie from an administrative point of view. <---- which, by the way - is helpful too....I'm trying to do something different here, so I need input to build the framework. So thanks for the heads up Esperare and Meustrus.

This is not a big issue I've learnt my lesson from it, and who knows? It could possibly be a useful tool in the future (if executed with more finesse than I managed!) There is a vote everyone has a say in, for this and other bit's and pieces to do with the game. The idea is to come up with stuff that we all like and is fun so let's do that ....and move on to discuss something else here now.

Here's a suggestion...and it's tongue in cheek - but how about putting a lynch thread in the game discussion area? Not for folk to be nasty for real, but somewhere you can poke fun have a rant, or growl at a player who killed you off....maybe we could even keep score of who kills who and how many times. Not entirely sure how this would work....hopefully NOT like the above thread, but for instance, something inspired like Fluffy's death post - directed at the wolf who killed her might win a prize. Let me know if you like the idea.

P.s I believe that Bubblegumfrog had already been seered BEFORE the eclipse thing.... (can't remember offhand now...either just before or just after) so whilst it bought a little time - depending on how many people trusted meustrus or believed he was the seer and voted with him...it was only a matter of time before you were killed off.   Was it because of the gagging order??? No! you could have used that to your advantage to garner sympathy. From what I gather Cockroach was happy to take the heat as he figured that a psychic getting killed off....well he was more expendable than the seer...hence he led the attack hoping to deflect wolfish interest from the seer....in short....he shielded the seer from harm which was good teamwork!

A discussion with Dragonslayer and Cockroach revealed that....it was the fact that you were the only one who didn't vote for Hitashi. If you had voted for her and played your cards right in the comments you made with respect to that...then you quite likely could still have won the game. They weren't sure up until this point...(they just had suspicions) it was this alone that inspired them to seer you.